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Do you need an Offshore Safe Deposit Box?

Filed Under (Uncategorized) by editor on 12-10-2009

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Maybe you’ve read our recommendations on buying and storing physical gold bullion in a secure offshore location. Maybe you are looking for a secure storage solution for confidential documents. Anyway, a secure offshore safe deposit facility is a useful asset to any freedom-oriented individual.

The good news is that most Austrian or Swiss banks will be happy to rent you a safe deposit box, regardless of your passport. The bad news is that you need your passport! The famed Austrian and Swiss anonymous numbered bank accounts now only exist in the movies. Swiss banks usually want you to have an account from which they will deduct the annual box rental fee. Costs start at around 65 euro ($90) per year for a small box.

There is one exception: a safe deposit outfit in Vienna known as ‘Das Safe’- located in a beautiful Austrian palace. You’ll find more information in Peter Macfarlane’s Gold Report, available free to Q Wealth members.

Just about every bank in Austria or Switzerland also sells gold bullion coins. Purchases up to around CHF 25,000 do not require ID in Swiss banks.
Consider buying gold coins like the Austrian ‘Philharmonic’  a  one ounce Austrian gold coin, similar to the American Eagle, Krugerrand or Maple Leaf.

Austrian and Swiss law prohibits banks from opening your safe deposit box unless they are sure you are dead! Austria is one of the only countries in the world with this protection. I have been in Safety Deposit vaults in France and the USA where it seems half the boxes have stick-on government seals on them due to tax investigations, lawsuits, or  creditor claims. Those seals mean that the owner can’t get into his box, and it is scheduled to be drilled open for inspection if the owner doesn’t show up for an appointment with “the authorities.”

So Austrian and Swiss banks are great places to hold safe deposit boxes, but what if Latin America is your stomping ground? How can you buy and sell gold bullion bars and coins in major Latin American capitals like Panama City?

Unfortunately, buying gold in Panama is much harder. Banks selling gold are few and far between (though see the recommendations in Peter’s report) But there is a bit of good news… a new private, non-bank safe deposit facility is opening in Panama City, named “Best Safety Boxes” which is opening in the Credicorp Bank building in Panama City. Further details on Best Safety Boxes may be found here: Do Business in Panama – Best Safety Boxes article.

Alternatives to Swiss Banks for Wealth Management

Filed Under (Uncategorized) by editor on 09-05-2009

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In this article: which Swiss banks still offer privacy, and which do not (like Credit Suisse). And where to find better wealth management services that are not subject to the same political pressure… in other words, private banking that really is private…

We’ve all heard a lot recently about the supposed downfall of banking privacy in Switzerland. I’ve personally been contacted by many clients of UBS who have been notified that their Swiss bank accounts are being closed because of the recent scandals in the US.  Many clients undoubtedly chose UBS thinking it was “too big to fail,” or maybe just because they had hundreds of sales reps in the USA, not realizing that UBS was also “too big and too exposed.”

UBS actually describes itself on its website as “one of the world’s leading financial firms”…  and therein lies the problem! It’s not really a Swiss bank at all… it’s a global bank just like JPMorgan or Citigroup.

I’m on record elsewhere as saying that Credit Suisse will have similar problems soon too. If your money is in Credit Suisse, you have been warned! It’s too easy for foreign governments to put pressure on big international banks to give up their secrets.

So what are you to do if you want to bank in Switzerland? For starters, you could go for either one of those ultra-discreet private banks. They are so discreet they don’t have websites, they don’t even have their names outside their offices. But they are certainly a dying breed. Besides, they are overrated in my view – charging enormous fees for service that as a sophisticated investor you probably don’t need or want. In the last few years many have been taken over by bigger banks like UBS and the large Swiss Private Bank Julius Baer.

A better option in my view would be one of the Swiss Cantonal banks. These are banks owned by Swiss local governments (cantons) which means they are both very strong, and very focused on their local markets. They are good for three reasons:

  1. They don’t have too many overseas clients – that makes them less of a target in the first place for foreign governments.
  2. They often don’t have any offices outside Switzerland – which makes it much harder to apply pressure on them
  3. Being associated with the government gives them additional political clout.

Many little cantons have their own banks and the best way to open accounts with them is to get on a plane. If you feel like paying a sizeable fee for a referral, a company called Micheloud & Cie has made quite a business out of bank introductions and is currently busy promoting Cantonal Bank accounts. But remember membership of Q Wealth costs just $87 and our members do get FREE bank referrals – full details in our Practical Offshore Banking Guide 2009.

One of the bigger Cantonal banks, for example,  is Zuercher Kantonalbank, from Zurich. Here’s a link to ZKB’s Private Banking division, but the site is only in German. I’m sure they speak impeccable Englis – but not having English language publicity on the internet is undoubtedly  a calculated decision about the clientele they are seeking. You probably need a good local referral and a sizeable deposit to get in the door, but this is the kind of Swiss bank you should be looking for if your aims are privacy, class and good service at a fair price.

Many Swiss banks, of course, will no longer accept accounts from US or EU citizens at all. Who can blame them, given the recent pressures. In this case it may be necessary (and a darn site better privacy wise) to look for alternatives outside Switzerland. Neighboring Liechtenstein is no longer desirable, given that it is signing agreements with the US treasury and is working on a ‘swift agreement’ with UK tax authorities amongst others.

Austria is known as “where the Swiss go for private banking” and indeed Austrian banks have world class wealth management services. However, their membership of the European Union could be a problem. Austria is also a great place to buy gold bullion offshore.

Indeed I think to find real banking privacy today it is necessary to go further afield. Not so much to specific countries, but to banks that realise that jurisdictional arbitrage is one way to enhance their clients’ privacy. The modern boutique private bank will have highly qualified private bankers who are able to open accounts at subsdiary banks in several different jurisdictions. As an additional layer of both privacy and asset protection, offshore corporations and foundations are always a useful way of handling offshore accounts too.

I don’t have space to get further into ‘how to achieve real banking privacy’ here, but it’s the kind of thing we cover in our quarterly issues of The Q Wealth Report and at our events. You’ll also find the publications in our members’ section represent an excellent start, and I am happy to answer questions by e-mail on this topic from paid subscribers (sorry, but I just don’t have time to answer queries from people who have not signed up) Our next event is scheduled for Bantry, Ireland, so maybe you can make it? If you would like to be kept informed on such matters please take a moment to sign up to our free e-mail newsletter Q Bytes

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